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I would like to open Word in text mode. Basically so it saves files in .txt

mode and copy-paste copies text instead of Word format. I would like to

create a short cut with command switches or something similar to open word

in this text format without loosing the default Word format of word. In

short, I'm trying to create a super notepad. I've searched, but am unable

to find a solution. Any suggestions and/or links are appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Jay

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    • You can't really have both... but you can Paste Special as unformatted text

      and save as text...

      Ref:

      http://www.officearticles.com/word/p...oft_word.ht m

      ************

      Hope it helps!

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      "Jay Douglas" <jayREMOVEIFNOTSPAM.ms-word.questionfor.info.jaydouglas.com> wrote in message

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      >I would like to open Word in text mode. Basically so it saves files in

      >.txt

      > mode and copy-paste copies text instead of Word format. I would like to

      > create a short cut with command switches or something similar to open word

      > in this text format without loosing the default Word format of word. In

      > short, I'm trying to create a super notepad. I've searched, but am unable

      > to find a solution. Any suggestions and/or links are appreciated.

      > Thanks in advance!

      > Jay

      >

      #1; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:24:00 GMT
    • I'm not exactly sure what you are actually trying to accomplish since

      Word is for Word Documents and the Notepad is for text files. It's

      sort of like saying you want to drive a Corvette but make it behave

      like a Ugo. ;-)

      I'm guessing you want to use Word but have it default to saving files

      as text? If that's the case then go to Tools/Options/Save and change

      the default Save format to Plain Text.

      If you want Word to default to the Plain Text style on the Formatting

      toolbar click in the text box portion of the Styles drop down and type

      "Plain Text" without the quotes and press Enter. You could create a

      template that uses the Plain Text style by default and use it if you

      want to create a new plain text document. For that, create your

      template, make sure the Plain Text style is present and go to

      Tools/Options/Edit and set the Default Paragraph Style to "Plain

      Text".

      Perhaps if you could tell us more about what you want to accomplish

      exactly with your files then we may be able to offer other

      suggestions.

      Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for

      assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Beth Melton

      Microsoft Office MVP

      Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word

      TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/

      MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

      "Jay Douglas" <jayREMOVEIFNOTSPAM.ms-word.questionfor.info.jaydouglas.com> wrote in message

      news:umXEPx$LGHA.552.ms-word.questionfor.info.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

      >I would like to open Word in text mode. Basically so it saves files

      >in .txt

      > mode and copy-paste copies text instead of Word format. I would

      > like to

      > create a short cut with command switches or something similar to

      > open word

      > in this text format without loosing the default Word format of word.

      > In

      > short, I'm trying to create a super notepad. I've searched, but am

      > unable

      > to find a solution. Any suggestions and/or links are appreciated.

      > Thanks in advance!

      > Jay

      >

      #2; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:25:00 GMT
    • Well, like you said, you can save Word files as text files. You can open

      text files with word. When opening a text file from word, copy/paste copies

      the actual text as text. When you copy a text from the native word format,

      it copies the embedded word markup.

      A couple of scenarios, say I create a document with the default template and

      copy paste the contents into dreamweaver, it copies all the word mark up

      with the text.

      If I open a text file with word, and copy paste it into dreamweaver, it just

      copies the text.

      I was wondering if there was a way to create a word template (.dot) file

      that uses text as the default format and then have word open this word

      template by using a command switch. A possible pseudo command line would

      be:

      winword.exe /template:textformat.dot

      Now, word would be acting as a text editor per say. I could have all the

      Word functionality such as spell check, C# code w/ office objects, etc.

      I could use this functionality for a ton of different things, not just

      copy/paste for dreamweaver.

      Does this make any sense?

      Thanks,

      Jay

      "Beth Melton" <bmelton.ms-word.questionfor.info.NoSpam4Memvps.org> wrote in message

      news:uoCSpaCMGHA.3196.ms-word.questionfor.info.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

      > I'm not exactly sure what you are actually trying to accomplish since Word

      > is for Word Documents and the Notepad is for text files. It's sort of like

      > saying you want to drive a Corvette but make it behave like a Ugo. ;-)

      > I'm guessing you want to use Word but have it default to saving files as

      > text? If that's the case then go to Tools/Options/Save and change the

      > default Save format to Plain Text.

      > If you want Word to default to the Plain Text style on the Formatting

      > toolbar click in the text box portion of the Styles drop down and type

      > "Plain Text" without the quotes and press Enter. You could create a

      > template that uses the Plain Text style by default and use it if you want

      > to create a new plain text document. For that, create your template, make

      > sure the Plain Text style is present and go to Tools/Options/Edit and set

      > the Default Paragraph Style to "Plain Text".

      > Perhaps if you could tell us more about what you want to accomplish

      > exactly with your files then we may be able to offer other suggestions.

      > Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for

      > assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

      > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      > Beth Melton

      > Microsoft Office MVP

      > Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word

      > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/

      > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

      >

      > "Jay Douglas" <jayREMOVEIFNOTSPAM.ms-word.questionfor.info.jaydouglas.com> wrote in message

      > news:umXEPx$LGHA.552.ms-word.questionfor.info.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

      >

      #3; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:26:00 GMT
    • If you want to copy plain text in any other Windows based programs such

      as dreamweaver then you can do it in two ways:

      1) All programs [should] have Edit/PasteSpecial/unformatted Text

      2) Paste the contents in NOTEPAD first. then copy from NOTEPAD and then

      paste to your application. By doin this way all the formatting is lost.

      hth

      Jay Douglas wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]

      > Well, like you said, you can save Word files as text files. You can open

      > text files with word. When opening a text file from word, copy/paste copies

      > the actual text as text. When you copy a text from the native word format,

      > it copies the embedded word markup.

      > A couple of scenarios, say I create a document with the default template and

      > copy paste the contents into dreamweaver, it copies all the word mark up

      > with the text.

      > If I open a text file with word, and copy paste it into dreamweaver, it just

      > copies the text.

      > I was wondering if there was a way to create a word template (.dot) file

      > that uses text as the default format and then have word open this word

      > template by using a command switch. A possible pseudo command line would

      > be:

      > winword.exe /template:textformat.dot

      > Now, word would be acting as a text editor per say. I could have all the

      > Word functionality such as spell check, C# code w/ office objects, etc.

      > I could use this functionality for a ton of different things, not just

      > copy/paste for dreamweaver.

      > Does this make any sense?

      > Thanks,

      > Jay

      > "Beth Melton" <bmelton.ms-word.questionfor.info.NoSpam4Memvps.org> wrote in message

      > news:uoCSpaCMGHA.3196.ms-word.questionfor.info.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

      #4; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:27:00 GMT
    • That's what I've been doing. I'm trying to find a better solution.

      "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS.ms-word.questionfor.info.NEWSGROUPS.COM> wrote in message

      news:43EFCC95.DC0F6D90.ms-word.questionfor.info.NEWSGROUPS.COM...[vbcol=seagreen]

      > If you want to copy plain text in any other Windows based programs such

      > as dreamweaver then you can do it in two ways:

      > 1) All programs [should] have Edit/PasteSpecial/unformatted Text

      > 2) Paste the contents in NOTEPAD first. then copy from NOTEPAD and then

      > paste to your application. By doin this way all the formatting is lost.

      > hth

      >

      > Jay Douglas wrote:

      #5; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:28:00 GMT
    • Option 3, better than either of those: PureText. I wouldn't edit without

      it. It's especially good for dealing with all of the obnoxious and obtuse

      formatting junk that comes with HTML.

      http://stevemiller.net/puretext/

      In microsoft.public.office.misc ANONYMOUS <ANONYMOUS.ms-word.questionfor.info.newsgroups.com> wrote:

      > If you want to copy plain text in any other Windows based programs such

      > as dreamweaver then you can do it in two ways:

      > 1) All programs [should] have Edit/PasteSpecial/unformatted Text

      > 2) Paste the contents in NOTEPAD first. then copy from NOTEPAD and then

      > paste to your application. By doin this way all the formatting is lost.

      > hth

      [vbcol=seagreen]

      > Jay Douglas wrote:

      Gary L. Smith

      Columbus, Ohio

      #6; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:29:00 GMT
    • I like MetaPad.

      http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/

      (You can make it transparent so you can work with it and something behind

      it, too.)

      ************

      Hope it helps!

      Anne Troy

      www.OfficeArticles.com

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      "Gary Smith" <bitbucket.ms-word.questionfor.info.example.com> wrote in message

      news:uDDb%23TFMGHA.1676.ms-word.questionfor.info.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

      > Option 3, better than either of those: PureText. I wouldn't edit without

      > it. It's especially good for dealing with all of the obnoxious and obtuse

      > formatting junk that comes with HTML.

      > http://stevemiller.net/puretext/

      >

      > In microsoft.public.office.misc ANONYMOUS <ANONYMOUS.ms-word.questionfor.info.newsgroups.com>

      > wrote:

      >

      >

      >

      > --

      > Gary L. Smith

      > Columbus, Ohio

      #7; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:30:00 GMT
    • Hi Jay,

      You can use Word as an editor to have 'familiar feeling' tools but it's probably not as widely used as a source code editor as it

      once was. More specialized tools (including even the MS Windows Script Editor that ships with Office 2000, XP/2002 and 2003) do a

      nice job of *displaying* the code in different indentations and colors to help edit it, without actually saving that in your data.

      You can use CSS styles attached to Word and with Word 2003 XML capabilities to also do some of that transformation, but as you

      mentioned, without doing work you don't start off with much more than Wordpad/Notepad as far as those capabilities go.

      You can use Tools=>Options=>General and set

      [x] Confirm conversions at open

      to be on. So that when you open anything but a .DOC file Word will ask you how you want it to be treated. (For example if you open

      a .htm file it will suggest HTML conversion to .doc, but you can select the 'plain text' choice to tell it to present it as the HTML

      source code).

      You can also use Tools=>Options=>Save to select 'plain text' as the default save format for documents, however. that isn't going to

      disable your ability to apply Word formatting to text in that file you open (bold, blue, 27pt font...) only to have it stripped out

      again on save.

      Yes, you can start Word with a template where the 'normal' style would be set up to be plain text look (courier 12 or 10 pt font for

      example). And you can use registry settings or, through a template you could set the default paste format of the clipboard to be

      'unformatted text' or a separate 'paste' button to do that.

      In Word 2000 through 2003 the default paste/data format Word puts on the clipboard does include the markup to be able to include the

      formatting from a Word document. Some programs or even different versions / releases of some programs have different methods or

      abilities for utilizing what is on the clipboard. That is, the 'receiving' program may choose to 'see' just the text as the default

      (but that may be 'plain (ascii) text' or unicode (2 byte) text), or RTF or the Word XML/HTML format. The same thing happens coming

      into Word when pasting, usually more 'noticed' for graphics.

      Using Edit=>Paste Special in Word (and where available, in other programs) shows the available formats and the default that you can

      use for a given operation. Word also has, for incoming (paste) operations, the paste options button to help select how incoming

      data will 'fit in' to its Word surroundings at a given spot in a document. Word does not have, unfortunately, a 'copy options'

      button to do the same thing, putting reliance on the program you're going to copy to, to decide how it treats text.

      As an example, MS Office FrontPage 2000 did not handle the Word clipboard output well. FrontPage 2003 is 'smarter' (i.e. tuned to

      deal with it <g> by having additional paste options). In Dreamweaver MX you can paste from a Word document and then use the 'Word

      cleaner' icon to shave down the Word content to 'web type' HTML by working on the markup that comes over as, for example. MS Office

      (Mso)document CSS style data.

      Using 3rd party editors (other than FrontPage or Dreamweaver) including the favorites of folks who have contributed to this

      discussion, and similar ones such as the http://ultraedit.com include enhanced file comparison modes, spell check and 'autocomplete'

      in context and other features tuned more for the 'behind the scenes' data work, just as the MS Office VBA editor in Word includes

      'lookup' / autocomplete capability to help you work with VBA/macro coding within Word by guiding you through syntax and usage

      choices, or the MS Visual C# 'word processing' code editor (IDE) specializes in working with that code

      http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms228282.aspx.

      Word can give you the look of plain text and you can supplement it with macros and add-ins to have it 'turn off as you go' the

      features that would let you copy, paste, type in full Word document text feature support, but you sort of have to always 'look over

      your shoulder' to watch to see that neither you or Word are trying to 'revert' to using a Word feature that isn't really tuned to

      the plain text or code that you're working on <g>. It's easy to slip by just 'reaching up' and clicking on one of Words 'handy'

      icons that you're used to using

      =============

      <<"Jay Douglas" <jayREMOVEIFNOTSPAM.ms-word.questionfor.info.jaydouglas.com> wrote in message news:u7jiHtCMGHA.3272.ms-word.questionfor.info.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

      Well, like you said, you can save Word files as text files. You can open

      text files with word. When opening a text file from word, copy/paste copies

      the actual text as text. When you copy a text from the native word format,

      it copies the embedded word markup.

      A couple of scenarios, say I create a document with the default template and

      copy paste the contents into dreamweaver, it copies all the word mark up

      with the text.

      If I open a text file with word, and copy paste it into dreamweaver, it just

      copies the text.

      I was wondering if there was a way to create a word template (.dot) file

      that uses text as the default format and then have word open this word

      template by using a command switch. A possible pseudo command line would

      be:

      winword.exe /template:textformat.dot

      Now, word would be acting as a text editor per say. I could have all the

      Word functionality such as spell check, C# code w/ office objects, etc.

      I could use this functionality for a ton of different things, not just

      copy/paste for dreamweaver.

      Does this make any sense?

      Thanks,

      Jay >>

      Let us know if this helped you,

      Bob Buckland ?:-)

      MS Office System Products MVP

      *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

      For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -

      http://microsoft.com/events/series/a...andtricks.mspx

      #8; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:31:00 GMT
    • I prefer TED Notepad.. )

      I liked metapad for long, but Alexander no longer works on the project

      and he also won't fix several anoying bugs. TED Notepad has already

      outrunned metapad in many ways.

      http://jsimlo.sk/notepad/

      Kew

      Anne Troy wrote:

      > I like MetaPad.

      #9; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:32:00 GMT